The carnivore diet is not only an incredibly healing way of eating, but also a whole lifestyle that nourishes you, ensuring you maintain that optimal physical health and mental wellness.  Eating a biologically appropriate diet adequately fuels both your body and your mind, enabling your body to restore its nutrient capacity.  Your body then heals by natural design.  Yes, that’s right, it HEALS itself!  It just needs YOU to support it.  

What do you eat?  A meat-only diet is pretty self-explanatory — you’re going to eat only meat. Nonetheless, like all diets, there are a few grey areas. 

In this episode we explore Lynsey's journey to becoming carnivore, what this might mean for the red sheep industry in Australia and what the health benefits a carnivore way of eating and way of life might be. 

Contact Lynsey @CarniMumma and via:

• https://www.carnivorelifestyleaustralia.com.au/beginners/your-why/health-and-wellness

• Check out the carnivore friendly products that Lynsey has sourced at https://www.carnivorelifestyleaustralia.com.au/. 

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Episode Transcript:

Jill Noble 0:04

obsessed with all things oh vine, there is seriously something about sheep and always something new to learn about keeping, breeding and farming them. Welcome to the sheep Show podcast. I'm Jill noble from Holston Valley Farm and sheep start and your host. The sheep Show podcast exists to help you no matter where you are in the world, what sheep you breed, what size your flock is. This podcast will help your sheep knowledge and your shepherding confidence grow. And it's a two way street. I love to hear from you. And find out how your sheep journey is going contact me via Instagram at Holston Valley Farm or via email Jill at Holston Valley farm.com.au. Come along on this episode as we explore the amazing world of sheep and sheep farming together.

Jill Noble 1:03

So Lindsay, let's start with that. Ben, tell us a little bit about you and your family and what is kind of our lifestyle Australia.

Lynsey 1:12

Yeah, get a job. I'm Lindsay So we're a small carnivore family living in Perth. My husband and I were both born and raised in the country ourselves. Myself in Esperance, on the south coast. And my husband's from all over the state, from Darwin to Catherine to kind of narrow all the way down to Alberni and Denmark. But we've been living in Perth for about 16 years now, where we raised our two daughters. And now with a massive 16 year age gap, we're raising our son. So our daughters have long flown the coop. And so that's just the three of us at home now, my husband who's 40 I'll be 40 this year, also, and our little guy just turned three. And so kind of a lifestyle. Australia is our small county family business. We have a website with a small online shop, a Facebook and Instagram page. And it's been a great platform just to share all things cannibal with like minded Australians.

Jill Noble 2:12

Yes. Yeah. And how long have you you and your husband been carnivore?

Lynsey 2:18

Um, so we've been carnivore for about two years now. Wow. Yeah, it would be close to two years.

Jill Noble 2:26

Yeah. Wow. I'm thinking a lot of my listeners probably like me, kind of this sort of flips them out first, because they don't quite know what what it means to be a carnivore. I mean, we all think Oh, but aren't isn't everyone who's not Fraps? vegetarian or vegan? Isn't everyone? carnivore? It's a bit different. So and I, I don't think I've been able to find anyone in Australia who's been carnivore, maybe a couple of people have been kind of what, three or four years but it's a quite a new thing. So, so not in the US is this people who've been carnivores decades. So what is the carnivore way of eating?

Lynsey 3:12

I Yeah. So the carnivore way of eating, I guess is about returning your body to it's a nice way of eating and really just reconnecting with the basic things that we need for good health. Like, you know, Beyond Meat, like sunshine, fresher movement, and also good wrist, which is really sort of undervalued in our lives today. But in terms of what you can eat, generally speaking, if it had a mother, then it's fair game on the carnivore diet. So anything that could walk to him or fly qualifies. And there are different categories or grades, if you will, of carnivore to, from what's called the lion diet, which is very minimalistic, and it's only beef salt water, right up to a very relaxed carnivore approach, which includes dairy, coffee, and perhaps the occasional glass of alcohol. But it's basically beef, lamb, pork, poultry, pork, fish, eggs, and dairy if you tolerate it, and we don't personally tolerate dairy, so it's not a part of our diet. And both coffee and alcohol for us are a bit of a rarity these days, too. And so for me, personally, I found it really hard to find even in America carnivores to follow that didn't include dairy. A lot of people seem to have a very dairy, heavy diet and, and ounces and ounces predominantly meat based. Yeah, so we've been eating this way for about two years now. And it's a fairly unanimous decision in our family that will not look back to any other diet. Prior to carnivore though, we were strict paleo for about seven years. Okay. And yeah, we had our own little miniature urban backyard farm in the city. We had chokes and grow a heap of organic fruits and veggies. I was a really avid gardener of fruits and veggies, but it just wasn't working for us. And that's how Yeah, that's how it led us to carnival.

Jill Noble 5:11

Yes. Yes. It sounds very, very similar to us. I mean, we are on a farm but at fruit trees. Wow. What was the catalyst for you? What made you start eating carnivore?

Lynsey 5:29

Yeah. So just by eating really, really well, by I guess, today's sort of health and food standards. I was still battling some chronic health issues that were having a major impact on my ability to both work and just to have a quality of life as well outside of work. And my chronic health issues were not resolving on a paleo diet. I mean, we've been we've given it seven solid years of paleo. And my condition wasn't budging. So I've been sick for about a decade after I caught helicobacter when I was working, flying fly out on a mine site in a construction site at that time in the Pilbara region as an engineer. And my health pretty much just unraveled from that point forward. So there was about a 14 month period where I was completely unable to work and I was bedridden bedridden, I could only stay awake for about four hours a day. And I was in bed for about 20 hours a day. And then beyond that I was hospitalized for three weeks and nearly died. Along the way. I developed a borderline bleeding disorder from being anemic. I was just generally malnourished had debilitating insomnia. I had picked up some really painful digestive conditions, I was sick constantly. Like for three weeks of every month, I couldn't even go to the local supermarket, I would catch something. And I'd be home in bed bound for three weeks, I had periods of being neutropenic as well, I was really just a shadow of my for myself before before I caught helicobacter. And I tried every treatment available over about about a decade. But nothing was working. And if anything, I was just gaining new issues as time went on. And by 2017 salads were sending me to the emergency room. And then that was just the start of some really debilitating allergic reactions. So it actually got so bad that I started becoming allergic to my environment as well. I couldn't even take a shower, the water would burn my skin like it was acid. So all in all, I was in a pretty bad way. I used to beef liver and cod liver oil to help recover from some of the severe allergies. But this was prior to knowing anything about the carnivore diet. But it was definitely my first introduction to the healing nature of animal products. But even beyond being able to share again, I'm still crippled with fatigue, insomnia, and pain, and all the mental health issues that go alongside with a decade of chronic illness. And so it was actually my doctor who said, Let's try something new. And I'll never be more grateful for that suggestion. Because removing fruits and vegetables entirely, pretty much removed 95% of my allergy triggers. And you know, something like so simple to remove fruits and veg. But it was also really hard to conceive and get my head around at the time because my diet was particularly heavy in vegetables. I wasn't waking up and eating gluten for breakfast, I was waking up and eating vegetables and meat and eggs. But it largely changed that downward spiral that I was on with the allergic reactions. So yeah, I'm finally on the road to recovery. Now I'd been sick for a really long time. And so I didn't expect to be 100% overnight. But so far, I've had improvements to my fatigue, sleep digestion, allergies, immunity, that nothing else no other treatment and I tried a lot or diet could provide. So I'm confident that the carnivore diet is going to it's going to be the silver bullet for my body based upon the improvements today so I won't eat any other way. Not if I want to be able to enjoy life.

Jill Noble 9:17

Wow. Oh, wow. Lindsey that sounds like quite a story. And, and such a turn around to is so good that a doctor actually prescribed it almost. Yeah, he's

Unknown Speaker 9:33

fabulous. Yeah.

Jill Noble 9:35

Well, I recently went to see my GP to get bloods just a blood blood review. And I told them that I told my doctor I said I think I've reversed perimenopause. And my doctor said really what did you do? I said, Ah, I'm carnivore now. And they were like what? Oh, for a lot of them. She she didn't she didn't try and talk me out of it or anything. She was quite respectful. But for a lot of them, it's it's a big shock, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, you probably know Kelly Hogan in the US, who's been a carnivore for, like, 11 years or something. And for her, it was her doctor as well, who said, yeah, it was her doctor actually said, you know, let's just try this. Let's just try this for 30 days and, and see, which is just fabulous. And And for you, you, you've got a toddler and your three year old is called for. So what are you? What are you noticing about having a carnivore child? Yes, so

Lynsey 10:42

our little guy, Michel, he's just turned three in December. And so he's also a carnivore, which I know is not a popular decision by today's Health and dietary sources. But whilst I was sick, and that was even into my pregnancy, and through the birth, but he had also been having his own issues since birth, that were also stagnant on a paleo diet, because he was initially raised paleo. And to name a few of them. He had a he had pretty bad colic, whole body eczema, he had delayed eating. So we're also seeing a speech pathologist for that for months. He had digestive issues and allergies. But probably the most concerning one for me was the unexplained bruising that he was getting, which was not dissimilar to some of the bruising issues that I was also having. So he'd come up with tiny patent like bruising all over his legs for absolutely no reason. And there was one time that he had a massive bruise across his entire abdomen that we had no explanation for. And I remember taking him to a local doctor, because I was really concerned in light of all the other little odd symptoms that he had. And the doctor told me that it didn't appear to be hurting him at all. So a bruise in the absence of pain was likely nothing to worry about. But you should have seen the size of this bruise. And in my mama brain, I thought to myself, there couldn't be anything more concerning to me than a bruise of that size in that location, especially in the absence of pain and trauma. But all those odd symptoms aside, the final straw for us both was really heartbreaking hospitalization where he was transferred between emergency departments. And after arriving at the Children's Hospital, there was a flurry around. He was then 17 months old. And they were putting in a cannula. And they turned to me and said that they are testing him for leukemia and sickle cell anemia. And I was absolutely gutted. I don't even think I responded, at the time, I was just in shock. But we were really, really fortunate, though in the end to have the test come back negative, but my heart just breaks for those parents that don't have that outcome. But that was the turning point for us. That's where we realized that we were never going to get any answers for any of his issues as well. And that it was totally our responsibility to change something, no one else was going to do that for us. And so that's how he came about transitioning over to carnivore too. And we haven't looked back for him either. He since becoming carnivore, he doesn't have any of his previous symptoms at all. He's a happy social and incredibly charismatic little man. He's very intelligent. He's languages miles ahead. And unlike most toddlers his age, he isn't waking up in the morning or constantly dealing with that starving feeling all day, you know, where they constantly asked for snacks because the sugar rush from the fruit has just worn off after an hour. He doesn't have any of that.

Jill Noble 13:49

So you've heard me say how good I know

Lynsey 13:52

and he loves target enough. I have to I have to stop him. So he just loves that. But yeah, he's pretty much he eats two meals a day by his own choice. Now. That's it lunch and dinner. He has no snacks at all in between that. And it's just water and bone broth outside of that. The protein and the fat fills him up so much that he doesn't feel hunger outside between meals. And he's very, very vocal he has been for a long while but he will tell me I've got a full belly so I know he's full. And I know that the meals are nutrient dense and because I can feel what they feel like for my body. And so I just I let Him guide me with when he's hungry needs it needs a bit more food on his plate. But to be honest, the only time that we have had any issues now with any of his symptoms reappearing, it's when we deviate from carnivore so if I let him enjoy birthday parties and things like that with his friends, so if he eats something at a birthday party, often he'll go for fruit over everything else. Because he doesn't get a lot of that at home. But he has Just paint just a tiny piece of fruit. And we'll see a symptom reappear. So, one piece of fruit and we'll be he'll be covered in all body eczema for up to three weeks from just one exposure. So that's when we get a return of the symptoms when he deviates. But he's actually nursing a broken foot at the moment after a fall on the year on the first day of the year. But I can handle that I can handle the accident. Yeah, but all all that scary, unknown stuff with all the odd symptoms that seems to be behind us now. So both, yeah, both myself and my toddler follow a carnivore diet, both for health reasons.

Jill Noble 15:41

Yep. Yeah. Oh, it's just amazing. And I'm sure some of the listeners are thinking but you know, the usual Christians that probably you had, and I know I have, you know, what about fiber? What about vitamin C, that you know, and that's something if you are listening to Lindsay's story and you have any, any sort of unexplained symptoms, or even any particularly any auto immune diseases, just try carnivore for 30 days, and you will be be you can be amazed, there's obviously no guarantee, but you can be amazed at what it can do. Particularly when there doesn't seem to be any other answer. Yeah, yeah. You know, and even even, like, I grew up on liver and kidneys and tongue and pigs trotters and, you know, some Irish, so, that was normal for me, you know, very normal, nice. I'm going to my treats now, you know, if I'm going to have a treat, it'd be crunchy black pudding, you know? Yeah. You know, and that's, that's, and I've always loved it. And I've always sort of sourced it out and ate it. When, when we were we we've eaten a low carb diet for a very long time as well. And we're now black pudding is like, just a normal thing that you have to have it in the House have to have it? Yes, just it just becomes very normal. And the feeling of particularly with me, we produce our own meat and sell meat and the liver is just liver and heart just phenomenal. So So in person, how do you go about getting your mate? Where do you source your meat from? Um,

Lynsey 17:20

yeah, so we're not purist when it comes to where we buy our meat from. We get we'll get it from a variety of different places just depending on the time that we have available. But but our go to online meat supplier is JinJin grass fed beef, because we love their products and their range. But we also buy from our local butchers and also will use as well. I love a good Woolies Scotch millet steak.

Unknown Speaker 17:44

Very good. Grass fed one. Yeah,

Lynsey 17:47

yeah. So we do try to keep our organ meats as high quality as possible. And get them from organic grass fed grass finished supplier. But five years ago, I started out eating beef liver just from release. And it's still had remarkable improvements, my allergies. And so I tend to go by the motto that any meat and organs are better than broccoli. So I just recommend people shocked to their budget and their convenience. Yeah, you have to start somewhere. And then you can refine it over time

Jill Noble 18:17

if you choose to. Yeah, absolutely. Without a doubt. What do you say to people? I don't know if you if you come across them. But people who say Oh, but you know, red meat, you know, isn't all that healthy? what's your what's your opinion on that?

Lynsey 18:30

I personally think that red meat and meat in general, just has been demonized for far too long. We've become so detached from it. But red meat has been so critical to my own health and healing and my toddlers as well. My husband just enjoys eating it. But I think that beef liver is the superfood of all superfoods after experiencing firsthand how it lessened my severe allergies. And I think when you've come from a place of long term illness, you really just want to see some improvements in your symptoms. So I didn't care that a meat based diet was unpopular, or against the current health science or even that it was the complete opposite of what everyone else was doing. It was what was working for me finally, because all the homegrown fruits and vegetables definitely didn't work. And we've given that a really good go for seven years. But interestingly, Oxford academic recently did a survey. It was a self reported health status survey of over 2000 adults that were consuming a carnivore diet. And yeah, and it concluded that contrary to common expectations that adults consuming a carnivore diet experienced few adverse effects and instead reported health benefits and high satisfaction. So basically 95% of the participants reported the high levels of satisfaction and improvements in their in their overall health. which is just astounding to me because I care more about how a person feels about their own health and the direct symptoms after you know, my own and my toddler's health history than what any science says, because they're the ones that have to live with their bodies just just like we had to. So 95% of them are having improvements. So that's massive. But hopefully, there'll be more research in the future that will help to debunk those the misguided fears around consuming red meat. But I'm just personally not willing to wait and suffer for another 20 years so that the science can catch up. Nor should I have to, you know, I've really come to a place of accepting that it's my body. And so it's my responsibility to heal it. On our website, we have a list of conditions and symptoms that I compiled from people that have reported that they've reversed, cured or put into remission, different conditions on the carnivore diet. So it's an anecdotal list completely. But people have self reported everything from you know, your fairly common type two diabetes and thyroid conditions, right through to early Alzheimer's and cancers even. Yeah, so look, I really think that red meat has a real raw end of the deal at the moment.

Jill Noble 21:21

Yes, yes, indeed, indeed. And ruminant animals in particular, I know, for us, you know, I was experimenting on carnivore thinking, oh, yeah, I'll try some chicken, for lunch or whatever. And I personally just didn't feel as good. Yeah. And we we even produce our own chicken here. So, um, but what do you what are your thoughts on ruminant animals in particular?

Lynsey 21:50

You know, I do laugh a little bit about this one. Because right at the start of my carnivore journey, I said to my husband, there is no way that I'm only eating beef, salt and water, I'm just not doing it. That's far too restrictive. And it's really funny now, because I'm pretty close to that with my current diet. It definitely wasn't something that I forced. But I've just let my body be my guide the whole time. And it's naturally gravitated me to a ruminant heavy diet. Beef, and lamb just fits so well with my digestion. And I also pose no risk of an allergic reaction, which is massive for me. I also find that they're probably the most flavors and meats for me, and I crave them both. So initially, my cravings were for beef are much louder, but that's definitely progressed more to lamb. I think the more seasoned the carnivore I become. Yeah, I think once all that noise from all the inflammatory foods in your body is gone. You can really listen to it properly. And, and most of the time my body is saying steak and chops. But yeah, that said, I do eat small amounts of other meat. Yes. And I'll never give up organs, especially beef liver. But I'm very much team ruminant animals now. Yeah, I found early on in my carnivore journey that my body became a little bit adverse to pork. And a while later, yeah, if something about just was completely turned off bike and awkward. But then later on chicken, it just became too bland for me. Not feeling enough. And I've noticed that with my toddler to just the other week, we ate chicken drumsticks for dinner. And by volume, he ate a lot. He had to hold drumsticks for himself, which was the same portion that I had. But he completely ate them. And then afterwards, he just said, My belly is not full. And he asked for some steak. So yeah, I personally think that you get more bang for your buck with beef and lamb. And certainly more nutritional bang and satisfaction to Yes.

Jill Noble 23:59

Yeah, for sure. I agree with you. I mean, I think yeah, I'll I'll still keep having chicken as a bit of a, you know, variety. But you know, I'm at that stage now where it seems to be just your team. Team ruin it. I love that. Very, very good. And what do you what do you think the this this idea then of being team ruminant means for the you know, because a lot of our listeners, they might have cattle too, but a lot of them more have sheep? What would it mean for the sheep and lamb industry? Do you think locally Perth, Western Australia and Australia and even the world? What do you think the future might be?

Lynsey 24:40

Yeah, look, I think that the carnival way of eating is naturally growing in Australia and all around the world to people are just starting to find out about the health benefits. And it has growing popularity in the fitness and bodybuilding circles as well. Thank you. Yeah, no, yeah. But I kind of feel like Carnival is now where paleo was about a decade ago. And people are just starting to take notice. So I can only imagine that in the next five to 10 years, it will be a lot more common and understood in the mainstream. And that will have a massive, massive positive benefits for the sheep and lamb industry in Australia and all around the world. I think we all need to eat more meat. And we're so lucky in Australia to have access to quality meat that we do. But yeah, in the meantime, I'm happy to eat there. Sure.

Jill Noble 25:34

It's indeed, yeah, long wait, rain. I love a lot of people that, that even a friend of mine, came to stay and never talked to her yesterday. And she said, Jill, I'm given this carnivore thing ago, but I don't know how to cook me, I need to learn how to cook me. And this seems to be one of the things you're most passionate about, where you've got your recipes. On your website, you've got some creative ways of cooking. So when you're cooking lamb, what are some tips that have worked for you and your family? And even potentially some some lamb recipes?

Lynsey 26:13

Yes. So firstly, I do have to confess, I'm, I'm not actually passionate about recipes or cooking. I'm actually possibly the world's worst. So I definitely don't claim to be a shift by any stretch. And I'm certain that my friends and family had a really good laugh when they found out that I had a Facebook page about food recipes. So it's not actually the cooking that I'm passionate about as such, but rather, it's the health brings that I'm so passionate about. So the foods and recipes on my Facebook page are all super simple and easy. If I can cook them anyone cow. Yeah, and they're completely aligned with the carnivore simplicity. When we get really busy, our meals get very, very basic, which I don't think is a bad thing. My digestion, personally prefers simple meals. And also the whole point of Carnival is to take the focus off food, you know, detach your emotions from it. But I'm also passionate about my toddler's health. So I think I've had to find ways to make the foods that little bit more fun for him. And that's why there's some simple recipes to keep things interesting. It also I think it helps beginners when they're transitioning into have something that they can make that people become so used to creating with food. Yes, it takes a year, it takes a little bit of time to get your head around not doing that anymore.

Jill Noble 27:45

Yes, you can just get creative with how you shape your, you know, beef patties. So

Lynsey 27:50

yeah, yeah, just, and toddlers. I just love the simplest things. But my my tip for cooking lamb is just to simply salt it with a really good quality salt, not table salt, and cook it in tallow or duck fat until it's about 65 degrees Celsius inside, and then it's perfect every time. But my favorite lamb cart is 100% chops. They're my number one food at the moment. It has been for a few months now actually. But in general, I'm just totally loving on lamb at the moment. Love it. Yeah, my body's just crazy.

Jill Noble 28:26

Yeah, that's exactly it. My Gary my husband, he very much thinks it's very good because obviously there's generally fat on chops, so you get the fat. And then if you're cooking in the tallow or the duck fat as well, and and that's I mean that Telemon duck fat is perfect if you're cutting out dairy because of choice or from a health reason point of view or tolerance point of view. And, and ahead of someone else from the carnivore community contacted me recently about you know how many chops is there, you know, if I get a whole lamb, you could have a whole 20 kilos in chops. And that's the beautiful thing about a lamb is that literally all the shoulders can go into the chops, you got the whole loin and you can get leg steaks or leg chops, you know? So it's that's pretty cool. If your body's created jobs you can actually do that. That's yeah, it's it's really very good. Yeah. And so you're the focus of the website and your your Facebook page. What what are you perhaps I guess it's a probably a family business now really? What? What is the aim there? What do you What's your philosophy? What are you trying to achieve with with that?

Lynsey 29:39

Yeah, so we strongly believe in a species specific foods. So for example, we have two eclipses parents, and their diet just consists of fruits and vegetables. So we still actually shop for fruit fruits and vegetables every week, which is a little bit funny, but um, but we don't feed them gluten rice. Any manufactured or unnaturally vitamin fortified pellets that are sold at the pet shops, just fruit and vegetables. And so for humans, we believe that a biologically appropriate diet is simply meats and tiny, tiny amounts of other foods, which we may have come across seasonally. But certainly not, not the highly hybridized. And you know, the selectively bred fruits and veggies that are in abundance at the supermarket today. Yeah. Yeah. And so these fruits and vegetables have been grown with pesticides, insecticides, fungicides, you know, synthetic fertilizers, and all of that on top of their own defense mechanisms, because they have their own insects, insecticides and toxins as well. So we believe that fruits and vegetables, as well as all the highly processed foods that are available today, that they're the root cause of the widespread illnesses, conditions and chronic diseases. And I guess that's what our website tries to get across that there is another way if you have been sick for a number of years, yeah, you know, look here, this is an option to give it give it a try. But we also have a Facebook page, Kearney, Mama Australia. And so the aim of that page is more to connect with other carnivores and create a little bit of a carny community. It's our way of sharing our personal healing journeys on the carnivore diet, and just the practical day to day stuff. Because a lot of people when they start thinking, Oh, my God, you know, what am I going to eat. And it can be a bit of a mental struggle to get your head around, not only dropping fruits and vegetables, but also going from having five different things on your dinner plate down to just one or two. And it's yes, that simplicity of the carnivore diet is something that takes a little getting used to. But once you there, once you're there, you really do lover. So a lot of our meals and monomials just one ingredient. And so yeah, and so the carnival, the carny, Mama Australia, Facebook page just shows people how simple we eat, because it's often something that your question in the early days. So it's a bit of support and reassurance and a little bit of a community. Yeah, whereas the the year, the carnivore lifestyle Australia is, is our little family business. And the website is has been set up just to offer that information in a fixed location. You know, our, our philosophy on dropping the fruits and vegetables and the benefits that it can you. There's a heap of information on there for beginners on nutrition and lifestyle. And I've started compiling a library of videos from doctors, both in Australia, and yeah, and all around the world that are in support the carnivore diet, because there are so many doctors in support of it. Yeah, and then there's also the section on simple recipes, which is still a work in progress. But and also an online shop called the carnivore store. And that's where we put up all of the carnivore products that we use in love. There are actually very few food products that we recommend, because the aim is to source as much of it as you can from natural food sources. Yeah,

Jill Noble 33:19

yes, indeed. Yeah, absolutely. So as you say, something that's had had a mother or, you know, a single ingredient. One of the things that was one of my Christmas presents this year, which was amazing was that the Celtic sort the French sort, someone bought that for me, and I thought that was a great present. And I was so happy to see it on your website. Because I think for a lot of people that's quite hard to find. It's not in the supermarkets or, you know, it's not in all the health foods and the type of salt we use is very important. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, so I mean, you know, from a fellow carnivore, I think it's so good that you're, you're at least showing the product that that that is the best product. And then, of course, they can purchase it or they they at least know that, you know, that's the sort of thing we're aiming for. And not all salt is created equally. I heard recently that the Himalayan salt has got pink food dye in it.

Unknown Speaker 34:19

Oh, wow. Yeah. Just

Jill Noble 34:22

think, Oh, we just think all the pink salt is so good. Not not not always, not always. Things. We really got to check things. Yeah, I've just said which is so good. So who do you think has been the major influencers for you over your carnivore journey? Um,

Lynsey 34:41

I'd say the number one would probably have to be my amazing doctor. He's one of the really great ones. I'm just so grateful to him. His guidance and commitment to helping me has honestly saved my life. Like I don't think I'd still be here if it wasn't for him. But Also my husband too, he started the journey first because I was still breastfeeding out our baby at the time. So my husband was, I guess, our family guinea pig. And I was still really unwell. So he did all the the reading and the research that I was too unwell to do myself. And he did all of the cooking initially to. So he's been my complete rock, not only through the carnivore journey, but also for sticking by me through over a decade of illness. But then also my toddler too, you know, he's my daily reminder to do better for him. And I truly learn so much from him every day, he keeps me so grounded. And I think that young kids, they sort of exude that innate instincts for diet, movement through play, and the inclination for being in an exploring nature. So it's been very grounding for me to relive those experiences as an adult as well. Because life is just so very simple for a toddler, and they have very few ones. And I think that's really, it's a really beautiful lesson for us at all. So there's no you know, there's no big influential names here. It's just the people closest to me that have helped me immensely.

Jill Noble 36:15

I love it. I love it. I think that's, you know, what you mentioned at the beginning and how it is about that thing. It's eating simply living simply, sunlight. Good thing water, getting getting your feet, literally your feet on the earth, you know, those sorts of things that that that's really what it is. It's a way of life, not just a way of eating. Yeah, you know, so it's, uh, yeah, it's it's really interesting. And, and if if people want to find you online, connect with you online chat with you more where? Where would they find you?

Lynsey 36:54

Yeah, so our website is www dot carnivore lifestyle australia.com.au. And they can also find us on Facebook and Instagram under the same name. But our website is newish. So it's still a work in progress. But yeah, we'd love to have the visitors. And if they interested in what the carnivore diet looks like, for our little family, and to see just how simple the meals are, then they're welcome to follow us on Facebook at Kearney, hyphen, Mama, Australia. And I'm always happy to receive private messages if people want to have a chat about something a little bit private.

Jill Noble 37:35

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think particularly for young families or people with kids, and then perhaps even people who are pregnant and things like that. I think it's you know, you've got a lot, a lot of things to share here as well, which is, which is so lovely. And your website. I had no idea. It was new. It looks very professional.

Lynsey 37:58

Oh, yeah, it's very new. I think that the first of December we launched it. So it's yeah, I've got a lot of work to do.

Jill Noble 38:05

That's brilliant, brilliant. That is really, really good. And I'm sure it's the literally it all there. The only way is up so you'll you'll I'm sure keep getting visitors and and hopefully with with some of the podcast listeners will check you out online and check out some of those recipes. A lot of people do ask me, you know, what do I do with the awful you know, or Yeah, you know, those sorts of things. And you've got some great ideas. And again, the answer is keep it simple. Just keep it simple.

Lynsey 38:31

Just just have a crack, you know, have a quick google it doesn't have to be complex.

Jill Noble 38:36

Yeah. Now it's, it's really really good. Any final messages thoughts? You'd like to leave the listeners with Lindsey?

Lynsey 38:46

Oh, no, just eat more meat. Eat more, eat more lamb eat more beef. You know, if you are feeling a little bit more Leo, you've had some chronic conditions, just swap out maybe swap out your dinner for beef or lamb or both for a week and just see how it makes you feel. It's absolutely amazing. The healing benefits.

Jill Noble 39:08

Yeah, I love that. And I think to quote Kelly Hogan, she says, Eat the eat the meat save the humans. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 39:18

So true.

Jill Noble 39:20

I know. It is i i have to say I, I can't I can't quite believe it. And even Gary my husband and he was you know, we've been big gardeners and growing our own veggies for 15 years. And and he was very clean eater. He doesn't drink or anything. And he's noticed a huge improvement as well. So even though you think you're doing all the right things, there's I think the carnivore can sort of take take that healing to the next level.

Lynsey 39:49

Yeah, absolutely. And even if you don't think you have health issues, yeah. I've read from a lot of people that they're like, oh, wow, I never thought I never considered myself to have anxiety. And then they they start eating like a carnivore diet and then they will say, Oh, wow, I actually feel so calm. I now recognize that I had quite a bit of anxiety before it's just so grounding and that sense of calm that it brings. I don't think you can really describe it. You've got to feel it for yourself.

Jill Noble 40:18

Yeah, it is. It's a it's a very mellow sort of feeling. Yeah, it's it's very good sleeping. The other thing I've noticed is sleeping is is much better you Yes, you very rarely wake up in the middle of the night you know, you don't have those sorts of sort of situations and things like that. It's very different for me anyway, it's been quite cheap. It's been quite different you know, and just energy you know, I mean, you running around after a toddler I mean, that's enough to tire anyone out. But yeah, I'm running around after sheep and and I have a sort of a day job as well. And I feel I can just jump over fences now and, and do all this sort of stuff that I used to do when I was in my 20s and thinking oh, this is what it feels like to be it was literally a spring in your step. spring in your step. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for sharing your journey with us on the sheep Show podcast Lindsay, especially in world carnivore month. And thank you so much for what you're doing with your website and bringing, making it simple for us to perhaps try carnivore and be carnivore so thank you so much.

Unknown Speaker 41:31

No worries. Thanks for having me.

Jill Noble 41:38

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